tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post268696056780531241..comments2023-10-12T10:09:54.121-04:00Comments on Believing is Knowing: The Idea Behind The Majority Rule - Rove.David Guttmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-62861928464771214782009-03-30T20:04:00.000-04:002009-03-30T20:04:00.000-04:00R. Micha I have a friend who argues that Kaballah ...R. Micha I have a friend who argues that Kaballah is just an esoteric language for a rationalist approach.I do not know enough to be able to argue when it comes to the Rishonim though I suspect that Ramban's concept of shefa differs from Rambam's. But I am convinced that the later mekubalim, especially from the Arizal on were talking about a totally different concept of Metziut. And the "mekubalei Doreinu" are completely in another dimension probably not very far from kefirah and if not over the line. I of course am not referring to Tzadikei Olam like Rav Kook et al.David Guttmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-88251496362428634442009-03-30T18:32:00.000-04:002009-03-30T18:32:00.000-04:00Oy, my computer programmer techno-geekness is show...Oy, my computer programmer techno-geekness is showing. I forgot basic mentchlachkeit!<BR/><BR/>I wish you too a cheg kasher vesameiach, and a second berakhah that the first one not need to be belashon lo zu af zu.<BR/><BR/>-michamicha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-50555626643966411102009-03-30T18:31:00.000-04:002009-03-30T18:31:00.000-04:00RDG: Wait until you read my post!In short, I argue...RDG: Wait until you read my post!<BR/><BR/>In short, I argue that the only metaphysical forces are the impact on people. By changing the person, Hashem now responds to them differently, and therefore the world around them is different. I then will try to show that the Nefesh haChaim's qabbalistic terminology ends up saying the same thing.<BR/><BR/>Or the presentation will come out differently. But that's the basic notion.<BR/><BR/>A rationalist's qabbalah.<BR/><BR/>-michamicha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-11570542525548767592009-03-30T15:43:00.000-04:002009-03-30T15:43:00.000-04:00>doesn't contradict the idea that mitzvos h...>doesn't contradict the idea that mitzvos have cosmic consequences involving metaphysical forces.<BR/><BR/>As you know I disagree with that completely but hadevarim Atikim.<BR/><BR/>R. Micha Chag Kasher Vesameach.David Guttmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-34235532634104505262009-03-30T14:25:00.000-04:002009-03-30T14:25:00.000-04:00Barukh shekivanti! I am in the middle of a series ...Barukh shekivanti! I am in the middle of a series about halakhah and perception.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.aishdas.org/asp/2009/03/halakhah-phenomenology-1.shtml" REL="nofollow">Part I</A> was about things you can't perceive (microscopic bugs) and things that are part of common perception but don't actually objectively exist (ta'am giving a milchig/fleishig/treif taint to pots and the tequfah for birkhas hachamah).<BR/><BR/>Part II will be on this very subject. (<A HREF="http://www.aishdas.org/asp/2009/03/halakhah-phenomenology-2.shtml" REL="nofollow">This link</A> may work someday soon, if I have the time to finish it before April.)<BR/><BR/>And last will be how the notion that halakhah depends on perception rather than an objective notion of reality doesn't contradict the idea that mitzvos have cosmic consequences involving metaphysical forces.micha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-25709391431113874932009-03-28T09:32:00.000-04:002009-03-28T09:32:00.000-04:00Torah is a real gift to all jewishTorah is a real gift to all jewishJewish Gifthttp://www.yourholylandstore.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-46863066795657146582009-03-27T13:28:00.000-04:002009-03-27T13:28:00.000-04:00Amazing. Thank you so much for the link to "B'Tor...Amazing. Thank you so much for the link to "B'Torato Shel Rav Gedalia"! I have been wanting to read it for a long time.Yehudahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13012748301457819738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-85561247270999898982009-03-27T10:37:00.000-04:002009-03-27T10:37:00.000-04:00Rove here is like Yedi'ah uBechira on Divrei Chaim...Rove here is like Yedi'ah uBechira on Divrei Chaim. Anyway, Reb Shimon Shkop in his Shaarei Yosher says a similar svara, not on the basis of perception, but on the basis that there is no ta'aroves. He compares it to six women in a bed, and dahm is found, that unless we can definitively tie it to one individual, they are all tamei, since each person might be the source of the dahm, or rather, since each person has an independent chashash of being a niddah.<BR/><BR/>The problem with using svaros in rove is that one has to accept that they are of no practical application, they are not dispositive; we don't hold like Reb Shimon's ta'ama de'kra. On the other hand, Darkei No'am is used in Yevamos even though there are plenty of cases where Yibum is anything but na'im.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.com