tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post2308937040773193073..comments2023-10-12T10:09:54.121-04:00Comments on Believing is Knowing: What is Prophecy?David Guttmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-32109281019766352992006-09-04T09:38:00.000-04:002006-09-04T09:38:00.000-04:00welcome back!welcome back!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-23553421712824821372006-09-03T15:22:00.000-04:002006-09-03T15:22:00.000-04:00Thanks very much!Thanks very much!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-63755439173268167852006-09-03T14:59:00.000-04:002006-09-03T14:59:00.000-04:00Some Guy, you are quoting the correct chapters 1:5...Some Guy, you are quoting the correct chapters 1:57 and 58 continue on the subject. Hil Yesodei hatorah 1:10 is a succinct presentation:<br /><br /> [י] מה הוא זה שביקש משה רבנו להשיג כשאמר "הראני נא, את כבודך" (שמות לג,יח)--ביקש לידע אמיתת הימצאו של הקדוש ברוך הוא, עד שיהיה ידוע בליבו כמו ידיעת אחד מן האנשים שראה פניו ונחקקה צורתו בקרבו, שנמצא אותו האיש נפרד בדעתו משאר האנשים; כך ביקש משה רבנו להיות מציאת הקדוש ברוך הוא נפרדת בליבו משאר מציאת הנמצאים, עד שיידע אמיתת הימצאו כמה שהיא. והשיבו ברוך הוא שאין כוח בדעת האדם החי שהוא מחובר מגוף ונפש, להשיג אמיתת דבר זה על בורייו<br /><br />he elaborates on this in Moreh 1:54David Guttmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-88023703953209660982006-09-03T12:26:00.000-04:002006-09-03T12:26:00.000-04:00Nice to have you back! I kept checking your blog,...Nice to have you back! I kept checking your blog, wondering "what happened to David?," forgetting that you were vacationing. <br /><br />So let me ask you this: Where would I find Rambam's seminal statement on the nature of God's unknowability, i.e., his most concise answer to the question of "Why, in particular, is God unknowable?" <br /><br />I've been compsing a long post about unknowability, and I want to be sure I've got his view right (or at least have the right citation). I have the following three excerpts from GP:<br /><br /><i>(I:35) Now everything that can be ascribed to God, may He be exalted, differs in every respect from our attributes, so that no definition can comprehend the one thing and the other.<br /><br />(I:56) Know that likeness is a certain relation between two things and that in cases where no relation can be supposed to exist between two things, no likeness between them can be represented to oneself. Similarly in all cases in which there is no likeness between two things, there is no relation between them. An example of this is that one does not say this heat is like this color, or that this voice is like this sweetness. This is a matter that is clear in itself. Accordingly, in view of the fact that the relation between us and Him, may He be exalted, is considered as nonexistent---I mean the relation between Him and that which is other than He---it follows necessarily that likeness between Him and us should also be considered nonexistent. [...]<br /><br />... it behoves those who believe that there are essential attributes that may be predicated of the Creator---namely that He is existent, living, possessing power, knowing, and willing---to understand that these notions are not ascribed to Him and to us in the same sense. [...] ... it is clear to all those who understand the meaning of being alike that the term "existent" is predicated of Him, may He be exalted, and of everything that is other than He, in a purely equivocal sense. Similarly, the terms "knowledge," "power," "will," and "life," as applied to Him, may He be exalted, and to all those possessing knowledge, power, will, and life, are purely equivocal, so that their meaning when they are predicated of Him is in no way like their meaning in other applications.</i><br /><br />Is there some other seminal statement that I am missing? (Obviously, I may also be missing the correct <b>understanding</b> of Rambam's position, but that's a different matter. I just want to be sure that I've at least got the correct sources.)<br /><br />Thanks muchly. Good to have you back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com