tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post114580365634751200..comments2023-10-12T10:09:54.121-04:00Comments on Believing is Knowing: A wake up call -David Guttmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-1145939976034023602006-04-25T00:39:00.000-04:002006-04-25T00:39:00.000-04:00After reading the piece from Ha'aretz about R. Ely...After reading the piece from Ha'aretz about R. Elyashov and the other Gedolim defending the baby killer I don't know whether to cry or to cry even more.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if these Gedolim would be defending this frum yid if he had thrown Slifkin's book at his baby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-1145858443409130012006-04-24T02:00:00.000-04:002006-04-24T02:00:00.000-04:00Boruch, I have ordered both off the derech and the...Boruch, I have ordered both off the derech and the unchosen. Thanks for the info about the savitzki interview.David Guttmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21749731.post-1145853984360623182006-04-24T00:46:00.000-04:002006-04-24T00:46:00.000-04:00I just read the link to the NYT op-ed, which is a ...I just read the link to the NYT op-ed, which is a poignant description of the lives of those who have left Chassidic and Orthodox Judaism. I don't recall having read anything in the NYT or any of the non-Jewish media on this topic before.<BR/><BR/>While I have not read the book, I have heard a conversation with Hella Winston on the NYC Zev Brenner show about two months ago, in regards to her book "Unchosen: The Hidden Lives of Hasidic Rebels" . That interview also provided a glimpse into the lives of these Chasidic "Rebels".<BR/><BR/>One factor which I feel could stem the growth of the "At Risk" population is the allowance of a more flexible approach even within the paramaters of the particular derech of the Chassidic/Yeshivish communities--Chanoch L'enaar al Pi Darko. Portions of the Charedi community appear to already have recognized that not "one size fits all" in chinuch. One hopes that these "rebels" will find a way back to Yiddishkiet--MO or RW Orthodoxy-- and that there also will be a continuing recognition among educators of the need for flexibility in chinuch.<BR/><BR/>As an aside, there is an interview on "Around the Dining Room Table" between Steven Savitsky of the OU and Rabbi Moshe Titlebaum of YI Lawrence/Cedearhurst(http://www.ouradio.org). Rabbi Titelbaum states that the "Off the Derech" phenomenon affects both RW and MO populations; clearly the factors involved in this occurrence are complex. Also, Mr. Savitsky interveiws Faranak Margolese, author of "Off the Derech". Have you read this book?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com